Amber's Dad Says Peterson Is a 'Criminal'
And states his thoughts on Juror #5
Monday, June 28, 2004

RITA COSBY, HOST: After the dismissal [in the Scott Peterson trial] of the now infamous
Juror No. 5, an unusual offer comes to the judge from our next guest. Ron Frey is the father of
Scott Peterson's former girlfriend,
Amber Frey, and he joins me now on the phone from Fresno.
Ron, what is your reaction first of all to the Juror No. 5, who has been talking up a storm?

RON FREY, AMBER FREY'S FATHER: Well, I think that was totally inappropriate, to the
point it made me feel like they definitely need sequestered in this case. The way he's
been speaking out and how he acts like he's speaking for the rest of the jurors is —
I don't think this case needs this. I think Justin was not a good thing to happen.


COSBY: Are you concerned, Ron, or worried how the case is going particularly after
Al Brocchini  got on the stand and Mark Geragos said, "Look,
you omitted a key part?"

FREY: That was a clerical error. I think it will all get straightened out Monday, Tuesday.
Everybody makes mistakes, so if he made a mistake. You know I think this case is so strong
even if they admitted everything that Mr. Brocchini said. Still, they're going to win the case.


COSBY: Do you think the prosecution should have been better prepared?

FREY: It's a tough case. A lot of pressure put on everybody. In the very beginning I was implying I'd like
Mr. James Brazelton to personally do the case. I wasn't saying the younger Rick Distaso isn't doing
well. I preferred Mr. Brazelton, but I'm starting to get impressed by the young D.A. He's just hanging in
there every day. And as this straightens out, I think we're all going to be very pleased with him.


COSBY: What kind of a man do you think Scott Peterson is?

FREY: I think he's a criminal. He's terrible. Cad is too minor. Cad and liar, that doesn't even
start to touch what he's all about. He is a criminal. And you know, I can't believe they haven't
had psychiatric evaluations of him yet. I don't even know if he knows what he's doing.


COSBY: Do you believe he killed Laci Peterson?

FREY: Well, let me say this, the evidence shows that he does. It's not that I'm saying it.
I'm looking — Justin had his opinion, well, the rest of us had opinions too. And I saw things
a whole lot different than Justin did. From what I've heard put on as evidence, he definitely
did. Now, that doesn't give — that hasn't given Mr. Geragos the chance to put on his
defense though. But at this time it's not like Justin said, it's the other way. He did it.


COSBY: Well, and the defense is saying again he's a cad;
he's a liar but not a murderer. What do you think?


FREY: Look at the evidence. I think even his only attorney admitted last year a dozen times Scott's guilty.
You know he implied — Mr. Geragos implied he was going to show us that Scott wasn't guilty, but
we're still waiting. I don't know why we're having a trial if they really have that much information.


COSBY: What do you think his motive was if he did this?

FREY: I don't think Scott knows his motive.

COSBY: Do you think he does have some psychological — do you think he's a pathological liar?

FREY: Oh, everybody thinks that. I really truly don't know if he understands what
he's done. I don't know. That's why I think he should be evaluated by professionals.


COSBY: Now, the defense is going to say, Ron, that someone else did it, maybe your daughter,
maybe the burglars, maybe the devil worshipers. What do you say to that line of defense?


FREY: Well, it's easy to accuse somebody else for something you did.
You know that's what lawyers do. I don't know. It's overwhelming, madam.


COSBY: How are you going to feel — some people saying after this week, which
was a bit of a rough week for the prosecution, how will you feel if Scott
Peterson is not convicted? What would you say about this justice system?


FREY: Well, I would think the system failed. Personally, if the man is not convicted, I know
I've come forward, I know different people that have. They've done everything they can to help
this case. So people I've — people I've seen that have come forward, they have no regrets. I have
no regrets. But the ones that are sitting on the sidelines that still have testimony they could offer
or new evidence, these are the people that need to come forward now, not later. Now is the time.


COSBY: What do you think also of Mark Geragos, the defense attorney, his demeanor in court?
Some people have been saying, you know, he's been very relaxed, even laughing in the courtroom?


FREY: I think it's terrible the way he's laughing and carrying on. And if Scott didn't have
anything to do with killing his wife, I can't believe he's allowing his attorney to be that way.

And another point that wasn't made about Justin picking on pregnant women, that is
so cruel. Of course, he tried to cover it up afterwards. But the damage was done.
He might as well have slapped Sharon Grantsky in the face. As cruel as he was,
I can't believe anybody is even going to let him talk on their programs anymore.


COSBY: Ron Frey, thank you very much for being with us. We very much appreciate your being with
us on the phone, Ron. And I know it's been a tough year for everybody. Thank you for being with us.


FREY: Thank you, ma'am.

COSBY: Thank you.

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