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SHINING STARS UP ABOVE
LARRY KING LIVE
May 29, 2003

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Panel Discusses Latest Developments in Peterson Murder Case
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LARRY KING, HOST: Tonight, shocking details emerge from the sealed autopsy on Laci Peterson's baby
-- plastic tape looped around his neck and a tear in his chest. What does this mean for Scott Peterson's
defense? Meanwhile, the prosecution now says it wants the autopsies unsealed. What will the defense
say? What will the judge do? The debate heats up, with Ted Rowlands of KTVU, on top of this story
from the get-go; Court TV's Nancy Grace, former prosecutor; defense attorney Chris Pixley;
Kim Petersen, spokeswoman for Laci's family, with their first reaction
to this day's dramatic
developments and with news on their efforts to get Laci's personal items back from her house. And
to help us make sense of all this and the new details, the renowned forensic expert, Dr. Cyril Wecht.
KING: What preliminarily does it tell you?

WECHT: Well, it raises a lot of doubt in my mind that this was a ligature of some kind that was
applied to the baby at the time of the baby's death, or at the time that the baby would have been
removed from the womb. I still lean toward this being an artifact. I think it is a pick-up in some
way from the water. I do not think that it was something that was placed around the neck.
I can see no purpose, no reason. And there is no evidence of injury, as I've said, to the
skin or the underlying organs, the structures, the bones, and cartilaginous structures
in the neck. So I think that it is not evidence of an ante-mortem kind of ligature.
KIM PETERSEN, SPOKESWOMAN FOR LACI'S FAMILY:
This, as you can imagine, Larry, has been a devastating day for them.
You never want to hear these details released in front of the nation
about somebody you love and care about. And it has been very
painful, very difficult. It's been unbelievable to them that somebody
would leak this information to the media, when the judge asked that
those
autopsy results be sealed. And it's been very painful for them.

KING: Has it changed their thinking at all?

PETERSEN: They didn't even get into thinking in that direction.   All they
could think about was that this is their grandson that they love, this is
their nephew that they love. And to have these kinds of details reported
in the media in front of the nation, as opposed to given to the
family in private, is -- it's unbelievably painful.
CHRIS PIXLEY, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think, Larry, at this point in time, the prosecution may not
only have to prove that Scott  Peterson is a murderer, they may have to prove that he's a
sociopath.
I know that Dr. Wecht is one of the foremost experts in this area,  but the idea that a knotted bit of
tape wrapped around the neck is something that was picked up in the wash, the idea that this slice
through the right shoulder and into the right lung is something that just happened while the body was
floating around in the water, I think, from a defense standpoint and for a juror, is difficult to believe.
NANCY GRACE, COURT TV: Well, I feel that this has been a defense stunt, to
release a little bit of information, a little trickle of information. And the price has been
devastation to the
Rocha family. And in response, the state has said, All right, be
careful what you ask, for you will surely get it. Now they are asking for the entire
autopsy report to be released.  But in a nutshell,  what speaks to me the most in
this information is that after handling many, many asphyxiation or ligature deaths,
I have never seen a strangulation, most importantly by ligature as opposed to
manual strangulation by hand, that did not leave severe bruising and damaging
around the neck, especially the neck of a baby, an infant, which is very sensitive.


As Cyril pointed out, there was no damage under the skin, either. That says to me
this was not a strangulation or asphyxiation death by this piece of tape. I expect the
tape to possibly yield fingerprints or hair that would still stick to the tape. And also,
let me remind everyone the umbilical cord was still attached, not cut, not tied. That
really rules out a Satanic involvement. And the baby was in much better physical
shape than the mother, Laci, which takes us back to coffin birth under water.


KING: Why, then, are so many people saying this was a good day for the defense?

GRACE: Because Mark Geragos is very wily. He is very clever. He needs a leg to
stand on. And between a tan van parked at a gas station, a guy with a tattoo that
says "666," and a piece of adhesive tape, he may build a defense out of that!
WECHT: With regard to strangulation, once the baby is detached from the
mother's placenta, you don't have to strangle. The baby is dead. The baby's
going to die -- the fetus is going to die in a matter of a couple minutes.


And with regard to the condition of the baby, this to me remains a major point.  I said seven
weeks ago, and I remain with that thought, that this baby, small body mass, could not have
been floating free in that water for these three-and-a-half months and have remained intact
to the point that it was. The sex was immediately determined, I think even by a non-physician
when
the baby was discovered on a Sunday night. If that baby had been lying out for all that
time, the external genitalia would have sloughed off, would have been decomposed.


I believe that this baby was sequestered within Laci's uterus and did not come out as a free-
floating object for several weeks, until Laci had already been in the water for a period of time.


KING: So you discount the thought of a Satanic cult,  some sort of ritualistic killing?

WECHT: Yes. I do not believe that this baby was forcibly removed from Laci's womb.
We'll see, when we get Laci's autopsy report, if there  is a slash through her anterior
abdominal wall and through the uterus. I doubt that there will be such an injury.
CALLER: Hi. My question is a two-parter. First I'd like to know what the panel
thinks about Gloria Allred coming on saying that -- well, not confirming the fact
that Scott Peterson is still trying to
contact Amber Frey while he's in jail.

And second of all, I'd like to ask the panel, do they not think that the obsession
that he has with Amber Frey is sufficient in being a motive for the murder?


GRACE: Well, yes. I understand the caller's question. But in addition to Amber,
there were apparently three
other girlfriends and a stripper. OK?

So I don't think it's an obsession with Amber in particular. I think he had
an obsession with women other than his wife and not wanting to be married
and not wanting to have a baby, as harsh as that is to all of us who would
love to have a baby. It's hard for a jury to get their arms around this concept.


But Amber herself may not be the motive the state asserts.

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