|BROCCHINI: (Tape in progress) is 02-142591. This is an interview between Det. BROCCHINI and
Scott PETERSON taking place 12-25-02 from 0001 to 0100. Pretty much Scott, all we’ll do, we’ll just
go over what, what we already talked about so I can make some notes.”
SCOTT: Un hum” (affirmative).
BROCCHINI: See if you remember something that you know, maybe you don’t know you remember.
So today just tell me about the morning.
SCOTT: Ah, O.K. Ah, I don’t know what time we got up, probably, ah Laci got up and went and, ah,
and she had some cereal for breakfast.
BROCCHINI: Un hum.
SCOTT: Eats right when she wakes up, otherwise she gets sick ‘cause she’s pregnant. Ah, I laid
around in bed longer, I got up at, I don’t know, 8 o’clock probably or so. Ah, showered, ah we were
watching her favorite show, Martha Stewart. Watched a little bit of that.
BROCCHINI: You didn’t watch the whole thing though?
BROCCHINI: You remember what part you saw?
SCOTT: I don’t know, I don’t what they had on. Some cooking deal, I don’t know, cookies of some sort,
they were talking about what to do with meringue.
( Four weeks later, with police already suspecting that Laci was dead, Det Brocchini reviewed
the Martha Stewart show that aired on on December 24. There was no mention of meringue. It was
the previous day, December 23, that Martha had prepared a chocolate pastry layed with meringue!)
Brocchini next zeroed in on the fishing trip Scott said he’d made to San Francisco Bay the day
BROCCHINI: When did you realize you were gonna go fishin’?
SCOTT: Ah, that was the morning decision, it’s either…
BROCCHINI: That’s a morning decision…..
SCOTT: ….go play golf at the club or go fishin’….It seemed too cold to go play golf at the club
(chuckle) so um, ya know, decided that, ya know, might as well….
(Scott had told several people the previous evening that he planned to golf on Christmas Eve –
and he’d even agreed to pick up a Christmas gift for Laci’s grandfather by 3p.m. at a store near the
golf course. Police now believe he abruptly changed his plans after killing Laci – using the afternoon
fishing trip on a bitterly cold day to set up an alibi after dumping her body in the water during the
night.)Det. Brocchini asked Scott what Laci planned to do during the day.
SCOTT: Ah, she was gonna finish cleaning up, Like I said, she was moppin’ the kitchen floor, ah,
take the dog for a walk and then she was going to the store to buy for Christmas morning breakfast
tomorrow and that was gonna be an involved preparation. So that was prepping the breakfast and
she was gonna make Gingerbread cookies for tonight.
BROCCHINI: What was she mopping?
SCOTT: The tile in the entry area…She had me put ah, the bucket by the front door for her.
BROCCHINI: So she asked you to put the mop bucket by the front door?
SCOTT: Yeah, she’s you know, eight months pregnant, ah, can’t pick up anything, so I filled it up
for her, put it in, ah, I think that’s the central place.
(Police believe Scott was trying to establish part of his alibi here. They’re convinced he used
the mop – later found, still wet, in the bucket placed outside the house – to try to wash away
evidence after he murdered Laci.)
BROCCHINI: So when you left, do you remember what she was wearin’?
SCOTT: Ah, black pants, a white long-sleeve top.
BROCCHINI: The kind that buttons or….
SCOTT: No, just like a long-sleeve T-shirt kinda thing, but you know, didn’t say anything on it or……
BROCCHINI: A jacket or shoes?
BROCCHINI: No shoes?
SCOTT: Um Um(negative).
BROCCHINI: Did you notice what jack…her jacket was there, ‘cause if she went, like if she went
walk…walkin’ at 10 o’clock or 9:30……
SCOTT: She usually steals my stuff.
BROCCHINI: She uses your stuff?
SCOTT: Yeah, because you know…instead of maternity stuff, so I don’t really know.
BROCCHINI: How ‘bout shoes, does she have a certain kinda shoes she walks in, or….
SCOTT: Yeah, usually a white pair of tennis shoes.
(Scott’s description of Laci’s clothing on Christmas Eve morning would come back to haunt him.
When her body washed up in San Francisco Bay four months later, she had on TAN pants, not black.
And witnesses told police she’d been wearing tan pants the last time she was seen – before 8p.m.
on December 23. As The ENQUIRER revealed in a recent story, investigators believe Scott removed
Laci’s pajamas after smothering her as she slept, then re-dressed her in the tan maternity pants,
pulling tight the drawstring at the waist and tying her thighs together with duct tape in an apparent
effort to ensure that their baby would not be born before he dumped the body.)The interview
switched to Scott’s fishing trip from Berkeley marina on December 24.
BROCCHINI: OK, so then about 9:30 you left?
SCOTT: Um hum (affirmative).
BROCCHINI: And you drove your 4-door truck, ah, and you went over to your shop?
BROCCHINI: OK, then you hooked your boat up?
SCOTT: Um hum.
BROCCHINI: And, ah, you know about what time you left Modesto?
SCOTT: Ah, gosh, I don’t know, ah, I, you know, extrapolate what time I got the, you know, noon, is that right?
(He was referring to a parking receipt at the Berkeley Marina, which Brocchini told him was timed at 12:45pm)
SCOTT: I got there at one?
BROCCHINI: Yeah, about one.
SCOTT: Ah, that should took (sic) at least an hour and a half.
BROCCHINI: Yeah, O.K., so it would be 12, it would be 11:30 or about (when Scott left Modesto)
SCOTT: Yeah, probably longer than that… ‘cause you can’t go over 55 with the trailer
BROCCHINI: O.K. did you drive straight there?
SCOTT: I did.
BROCCHINI: You stop for lunch?
BROCCHINI: Did you buy bait?
SCOTT: Nope, I’m not a bait fisher fisherman.
BROCCHINI: You didn’t buy no lunch, didn’t even eat nothin’?
BROCCHINI: Take a lunch?
SCOTT: Nothin’, I was damn hungry when I got home.
BROCCHINI: O.K., so if you got to the---‘bout five minutes to one, you got your boat in, how long do
you think you stayed in the water?
SCOTT: Ah, felt like an hour and a half or so, but like I said…. See, if I was getting home at….I don’t
know, an hour and a half, I guess, probably be accurate.
BROCCHINI: Ah, did you have a map for that area, or ---
BROCCHINI: What, you just wing it?
SCOTT: Um hum.
BROCCHINI: So you just, when you got in your boat you took off, did you go very far, or ----
SCOTT: No, I mean probably a couple miles. I went north, ah, found a, like a, like a little island kinda deal there.
BROCCHINI: Um hum.
SCOTT: Ah, island, ah had a buncha trash on it. I remember a big sign that said no landing, looked like
some broken piers around it. I just assumed it would be a decent, you know, shallow area,
BROCCHINI: Did you troll?
SCOTT: Little bit. I mean a lot of, the reason I went was just to get that boat in the water to see, you know…..
The interview was interrupted when, Scott gota call on his cell phone from Amy Rocha, Laci's sister. The police audio tape picked up Scott’s end of the conversation.
SCOTT: Amy, what’s goin’ on, Amy? Yeah. Oh I don’t know, where you at now? In front of my, our house.
O.K. Yeah, ah, ah, where you guys take your place obviously where Nate and Brent going'. O.K. Yeah,
ah, I don’t know. Thanks, I appreciate that. Think you can call back in a little while? Thanks, Amy.
As he hangs up, he tells Brocchini tersely, “Sister-in-law.”
(When he replayed the interview tape later, Det. Brocchini was probably struck by an incredible
realization: During his conversation with Amy, Scott never once mentioned his wife’s name or
nquired about the ongoing search for her!)
BROCCHINI: O.K., so you fish 90 minutes, then what? You got back to the marina.
SCOTT: Um hum.
BROCCHINI: You see anybody, you talk to anybody out there?
SCOTT: Ah, talked to a couple guys fishing. They asked me, you know, did you catch anything?
SCOTT: No, they didn’t either. Ah, the guys workin’, fixing, ah, main, main, maintenance guys got a
good laugh from me tryin’ ta back down the trailer.
SCOTT: Ah, so a couple guys laughin’ and a couple guys talkin’ about fishin’.
Brocchini then questioned Scott about his journey home to Modesto.
BROCCHINI: You have to stop for gas?
SCOTT: Stop for gas in, ah, I guess it’s Livermore or Pleasanton….Ah, I think it was a Chevron
station, there’s a, ah, buses around there.
BROCCHINI: How’d you pay?
SCOTT: Credit card.
BROCCHINI: Do you have your receipt still?
SCOTT: Ah, I didn’t get a receipt, no.
BROCCHINI: Debit card or credit card?
SCOTT: Ah, debit. Ah, I don’t know which way they count it, debit or credit, when you stick it in there.
BROCCHINI: But it was your bank, it wasn’t a Chevron card, right?
SCOTT: Right, right, it’s my, yeah, E-bay, ATM, debit or credit card.
Brocchini asked Scott about calls he tried to make to Laci during the trip home.
BROCCHINI: O.K., when you got in the car, what did you call, you said?
SCOTT: I called Laci, ah, just as I was leaving the marina.
BROCCHINI: Home phone?
SCOTT: Told her where I was, ah, home and the mobile.
BROCCHINI: You left a message?
SCOTT: Yes…Ah, I don’t know if it’s time stamped. Try it out. Yesterday at 2:16.
He dialed Laci’s cell phone and let Brocchini listen. Scott’s message was received from the
nswering system and read in court at Scott’s preliminary hearing.
“Hey beautiful, I just left you a message at home, ah, 2:15 I’m leaving Berkeley. I won’t be able to
get to Vella Farms to get that basket for papa. I was hoping you would get this message and, ah,
go out there. I’ll see you in a bit sweetie. Love you. Bye.”
BROCCHINI: O.K., so then you get gas?
SCOTT: Um hum.
BROCCHINI: You drive straight home?
SCOTT: To the warehouse, dropped off the boat.
SCOTT: Then go home.
The detective returned to the phone messages Scott said he left for Laci at home and on her cell phone.
BROCCHINI: O.K., so then you drive, did you try to call anymore?
SCOTT: Just, ah, called once from the marina, both phones, and then, ah, later on. When was that
BROCCHINI: No, the second call wasn’t from you. It was from her dad or somebody.
SCOTT: I left a second message on her mobile.
BROCCHINI: There was only one from you.
SCOTT: I know….Ah, well, I left two at home and I thought I left two on the mobile. Maybe I didn’t
leave the second one on the mobile.
Scott didn’t tell Det. Brocchini that he’d also called his father and spoken to him between noon and
2pm…when he would have been either approaching the marina or actually out on the water.
But his father Lee Peterson testified in court that Scott never mentioned a fishing trip.
SCOTT TOLD THE DETECTIVE HE ARRIVED HOME TO FIND HIS BACK DOOR UNLOCKED AND THEIR
DOG MCKENZIE WANDERING IN THE YARD WITH HIS LEASH ON. (He'd been found hours earlier by
neighbor Karen Servas, wandering in the street trailing his mud caked leash, and she'd put him in the
yard.)ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THE INTERVIEW RETURNED TO THE MOP AND BUCKET SCOTT SAID
LACI WAS USING WHEN HE LEFT.
BROCCHINI: So what’d you do when you go in?
SCOTT: Ah, the cat followed me, so I dumped out that mop water, ‘cause the cat went over to it.
BROCCHINI: Where was the mop bucket?
SCOTT: Ah, you remember our front door? There’s a little light, white piece, wood piece….
BROCCHINI: Uh huh.
SCOTT: ….Built in. It was just in front of that….
BROCCHINI: Your cat goes over to this bucket?
BROCCHINI: And what, was he gonna drink out of it, or….
SCOTT: Look like it to me.
BROCCHINI: So you just picked it up and walked it out the front door then?
SCOTT: No, that little side door.
BROCCHINI: And you set it out there?
SCOTT: Dumped it, then set it there.
BROCCHINI: Then what’d you do?
SCOTT: Ah, put my clothes in the washer. Took out those rags, threw my clothes in there.
BROCCHINI: Were you callin’ for Laci, or….
SCOTT: Oh yeah, of course.
BROCCHINI: But she wasn’t home?
SCOTT: No, I assumed she was at her mom’s.
BROCCHINI: You put your jeans, your blue T-shirt, anything else in there?
SCOTT: I think that green pullover was in there too, wasn’t it?
BROCCHINI: Yeah, I think so. Did you start the washer?
BROCCHINI: Did you put soap?
SCOTT: Um hum(affirmative).
BROCCHINI: O.K., then what?
SCOTT: Ah, grabbed some pizza from the fridge.
BROCCHINI: Took the box out?
SCOTT: Yeah, put it on the counter like it was, ah, glass of milk, then jumped in the shower.
BROCCHINI: You had a glass of milk?
SCOTT: Ah, small one, yeah.
BROCCHINI: How many pizza did you have?
SCOTT: Ah, I ate just one full piece, and a half a bit of another one.
BROCCHINI: Then you took a shower?
SCOTT: Um hum. But I took some pizza in there with me, started the shower.
BROCCHINI: Did you call her mom?
SCOTT: After I got out of the shower, put clothes on, that’s when I checked the messages…There were
three, two from me and one from Ron (Grantski) her stepfather, asking for whipped cream when we came
over. That’s when I said, hey man, he’s calling me for whipped cream.
(Scott finally called Laci’s mother, Sharon Rocha. She told the judge at Scott’s preliminary hearing that she
couldn’t forget the ominous phrase Scott used. Laci was “missing”, he said, and Sharon thought that was
a strange choice of words. It was 5:17pm. Sharon immediately abandoned cooking for a 6:30p.m. dinner
Scott and Laci were supposed to attend at her house. Ron Granski dialed 911 at 5:48 p.m.)
BROCCHINI: What did, who all, did you call other people then?
SCOTT: I called Sharon, ah, then I called a couple of Laci’s closer friends, I think Stacey and Renee. Ah,
and then I was, I had the phone book out to call hospitals when Sharon called me back at that point and
said that they would do that and call the police and for me to check the neighbors and go to the park.
(Laci’s family headed for the park near her home where Scott said she was preparing to walk their
dog McKenzie when he left the house.)
DET. BROCCHINI ASKED ABOUT A PISTOL HE’D FOUND IN THE GLOVE COMPARTMENT OF SCOTT’S TRUCK.
BROCCHINI: How ‘bout the gun? How, how long has that been in your car?
SCOTT: Ah, probably a month. Took it to Lone Pine to shoot pheasants, took it with me.
BROCCHINI: Right. Well, ah, you went up there, ah, pheasant hunting? Obviously you don’t use that to shoot pheasants.
SCOTT: No, no.
BROCCHINI: Have you fired it recently?
SCOTT: No, within the past year, no.
BROCCHINI : “WOULD YOU BE, AH, WILLING FOR ME TO TAKE A GUNSHOT RESIDUE ON YOUR HANDS?”
SCOTT: Sure, no problem. Will outboard exhaust show up as gunshot residue, or would it be different?
BROCCHINI: What? Exhaust?
SCOTT: Yeah. From that outboard.
(Brocchini assured Scott that exhaust from the outboard of his 14-foot boat could not be confused with gunshot residue. But it was a curious question.)
BROCCHINI PAUSED BEFORE PROBING THE STATE OF SCOTT AND LACI’S MARRIAGE.
BROCCHINI: Have you guys, you guys haven’t had any problems, ah, marriage problems?
BROCCHINI: Everything is good?
SCOTT: Hum um (affirmative).
(It wasn’t until weeks later that Scott admitted to police that when Laci disappeared he had been
cheating on her with a massage therapist named Amber Frey. But he told Diane Sawyer later that
he’d told the police right away.)
BROCCHINI: And you been married four years?
SCOTT: Yeah, four or five I’m thinking. I think this is five. I got married in ’97.
BROCCHINI: So you were married in ’97?
SCOTT: I believe so.
THE INVESTIGATOR THEN PRESSED SCOTT ABOUT A REMARK HE’D MADE EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE PARK WHERE HE’D SAID LACI WAS PLANNING TO WALK THE DOG.
BROCCHINI: Times you walked in the park you said you have seen campers, bums or whatever…Um,
has Laci ever complained to you about somebody botherin’ her?
SCOTT: She has times said she’s felt uncomfortable and thankful she has the dog. We’ve called the
police a couple of times about people down there just to get ‘em to move on, you know, and it’s, ah, not
uncommon for Laci or myself to, you know, wake one of these guys or ladies up and tell him to get lost.
(Laci’s family and close friends were stunned when this conversation was reported to them by police.
It was inconceivable, they claimed, that gentle Laci would ever have been aggressive towards homeless
people in the park…she was a generous soul who would be much more likely to give them a helping hand.)
DET. BROCCHINI SEEMED PUZZLED OVER ONE PIECE OF SCOTTS EARLIER TESTIMONY: THE CLAIM
THAT LACI WAS MOPPING THE FLOOR WHEN HE LAST SAW HER. HE POINTED OUT TO SCOTT THAT
THEIR MAID, MARGARITA NAVA, HAD CLEANED THE HOUSE ONLY THE DAY BEFORE.
BROCCHINI: And obviously she did a lotta work, because the house wasn’t filthy. Why was your wife
mopping on Tuesday morning?
SCOTT: I don’t know. Got me. I mean she was pretty fastidious about it though.
BROCCHINI: Was she?
SCOTT: With the dog and cats and her, ah, you know, doing, ah, Christmas deal, that was pretty
common…Yeah, she’s, ah, she always had the vacuum or the mop out.
(His statement surprised friends who said her housekeeping was nowhere near as meticulous
as Scott claimed.)
NEAR THE END OF THE 59-MINUTE INTERVIEW, BROCCHINI BROACHED THE SUBJECT OF
SCOTT TAKING A LIE DETECTOR TEST.
BROCCHINI: Would you be willing to take a polygraph?
BROCCHINI: So what you’re telling me, Scott, is there no, you have no idea where Laci is?
BROCCHINI: O.K., I, I, I only have a couple of concerns. One is the cell phone call that you made,
but if you listen to it, that call is made at 12:17.
SCOTT: Which one’s that?
BROCCHINI: The first one you made from, ah, Berkeley.
SCOTT: Was it?
BROCCHINI: Yeah, you said…
SCOTT: …---From the boat.
BROCCHINI: No, you said 2:17, but the time stamp on the call says 12:17.
(Brocchini appeared to be suggesting that Scott left the “Hey beautiful” message on Laci’s cell phone
two hours earlier than he claimed. If that was so, he would have been still on his way to the marina
when he made the call, not just leaving the marina as he stated in the message.)
FINALLY, IN WHAT MUST HAVE BEEN A CHILLING MOMENT FOR SCOTT, BROCCHINI MENTIONED
THE “S” WORD FOR THE FIRST TIME.
BROCCHINI: The only, just to eliminate you as a suspect you’d be willing to take…
BROCCHINI: Would you be willing to take a polygraph?
SCOTT: Yeah…They’re accurate, right?
BROCCHINI: Yeah, yeah, I mean I, it’s not nothing that can be used against you, but yeah, I believe
SCOTT: No, I’m certainly willing.
BROCCHINI: It wouldn’t be now, it’d be, ya know, in a day or two.
BROCCHINI: It’s just like the next step in this thing.
(A year after Laci’s disappearance, and eight months after the bodies of Laci and her baby Conner
washed up in San Francisco Bay, Scott Peterson has yet to submit to a polygraph.)
AS THE INTERVIEW DREW TO A CLOSE AT 1 A.M., THE WEARY DETECTIVE ASKED SCOTT IF HE HAD ANY QUESTIONS HE’D LIKE ANSWERED.
SCOTT: No, I mean I’ve asked you a couple times what to do, um, so I have the answers to that so….
BROCCHINI: And so yeah, there’s, ya know, all we can do now is make people aware of the problem,
the situation, and hope that somebody saw something or knows something.
SCOTT: The only question I have, what about resources available. You saw my mother-in-law tonight,
um, anyway you saw some of my friends, myself….
BROCCHINI: What do you mean like for?
SCOTT: Counseling and that kind of thing.
BROCCHINI: Well, yeah.
SCOTT: Can you give us the numbers or do I have to search….
BROCCHINI: No, no. I can give you those numbers, um, I just don’t know, I mean you’re probably not
going’ to get any answers today….It’s Christmas, I mean.
SCOTT: Yeah, of course. And there’s no need to call if we find Laci in the next few days.
BROCCHINI: Yeah, I agree, yeah. I’ll give you those numbers.
SCOTT: I will need them.
BROCCHINI: That’s my number, and my cell phone number and I’ll get you the number to the victim
services. And now, where do you want to go?
SCOTT: Oh, tonight, physically, back to my home.
IT WAS 1 A.M. ON CHRISTMAS DAY, AND SCOTT PETERSON HAD JUST LOCKED HIMSELF INTO A
STORY THAT WOULD BE CLOSELY SCRUTINIZED FOR MONTHS TO COME.
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