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The Search for Laci Peterson
By - Gene Ralston

The Laci Peterson murder case has garnered high-profile media attention from the beginning,
which in some cases can make the investigators' jobs that much harder. When the Modesto Police
wanted sonar searches of San Francisco Bay to go along with diver efforts, they called in Gene
Ralston and his firm, Ralston & Associates. We caught up with Gene to get the inside story on
the search for evidence in the murder of Laci Peterson and her unborn son,
whose remains washed ashore in April.

Interview of Gene Ralston (
GR) by Underwater Magazine (UW)

UW: Give us a brief overview of your firm. You've been involved in several high-profile
cases before, correct?
GR: Ralston & Associates is an environmental consulting firm specializing in water-related services.
We conduct water quality and sediment sampling, hydrographic surveys, and fish and aquatic organism investigations.We have volunteered our equipment and manpower for water search and rescue activities
since 1982. In 2001 we purchased a sidescan sonar system for use in our business, but it has been
primarily used for searching for drowning victims and other objects underwater.In 2002, we located four homicide victims for the FBI in 325 feet (100m) of water in a California reservoir. We have assisted the
FBI in other cases and were early responders in the search for space shuttle Columbia debris in
Toledo Bend Reservoir in East Texas.


UW: How did you become involved with the Laci Peterson search?
GR: We began working with the Modesto Police Department on this case in early January. We have spent
more than 30 days on multiple trips to various locations, with most of that time on San Francisco Bay.


UW: How many people are on your team when you perform a search such as this?
GR: We generally only need a crew of two when we use our own boat and equipment. My wife drives the
boat while I operate the sidescan equipment. Occasionally we have one, or at the most two, law
enforcement observers onboard. We have found that the fewer people onboard the better. There is less distraction with a smaller crew.


UW: Had you worked with these law enforcement agencies before?
GR: We had not worked with the Modesto Police Department previously, but we have had several
occasions to work with the FBI
.

UW: When you are called out on a search such as this, how much detail are you given as to what you're
looking for? Are you given actual case details, or is it general info like, "female, this height,
this weight, etc."?
GR: Generally in homicide investigations, only minimum information is provided initially. As the
agency's confidence in us grows and they understand the need for us to have additional details, they
will provide more information. The essential information, of course, is height and weight, along with
any information about how the victim may be bound or otherwise "packaged." That type of information
is critical to visualizing how our target might appear in the sidescan image.


UW: Are you at the mercy of the law enforcement agencies as to where to search and when, or are you
consulted as to your recommendations for search areas, depending on the details of the case?
GR: Most of the time the responsible law enforcement agency has very good information regarding the
location of the search area based upon the evidence their investigation has developed. Occasionally,
we are asked our opinions based upon our experience as well as knowledge of water physics and the
inter-relationship between depth, pressure, and temperature as they affect buoyancy of the object we
are searching for. In accidental drowning cases, we are given all information available and occasionally
we personally interview witnesses, if any. We are also given considerable latitude in evaluating the
investigators' information to determine the most probable area to search.


UW: Where specifically did you search for Laci Peterson? Were any of the areas particularly difficult for
one reason or another?
GR: We searched beneath several bridges early in the investigation and later focused on San Francisco
Bay. The bridges were probably the most challenging since they spanned very deep channels, some
up to 325 feet (100m), with steep rocky side slopes. Many of them had tall trees still standing
underwater which entangled the towfish.The major problem associated with San Francisco Bay was the
huge size of the search area. Having to deal with commercial ship traffic, in addition to the normal,
inquisitive boating public, also presented problems.


UW: How many sites were you able to identify as possibly being Laci Peterson's body?
GR: All I can say is that we were told to expect to find more than what we were looking for, and we did.

UW: What do you look for in the data as telltale signs that you might have found a body? What other
objects are most often mistaken for bodies with sonar searches?
GR: Accidental drowning victims are very distinctive and generally quite easy to identify. We can usually
see arms, legs, and torso. Homicide victims, however, depending upon how they may be "packaged,"
are a bit more difficult to identify. Quite often they will not display arms or legs, and may be found lying
in a variety of positions because of objects attached to them.Also, in homicide cases, it is very critical to
have an idea of what you are looking for, otherwise, nearly every "out-of-place" object is a potential target
of interest.In another homicide case, an ROV was sent down to recover the victim. The object appeared
to be a large boulder in the video from the vehicle, so the ROV operator moved on. After awhile, the agent
in charge told the ROV operator to return to the "boulder" and bump into it. It moved - it was not a boulder!


UW: What are the biggest factors in a body search of this type being successful?
GR: Having accurate location information is essential to minimize the search area. Calm water
conditions are also a great benefit. Surface wave action from wind or passing boats can cause
smearing of the sidescan images and render them worthless. Of course, the bottom conditions
are also important. A smooth, clean bottom with no trees, large boulders, or other debris that
can hide the object you are looking for is very desirable.


UW: Let's talk about equipment. What exactly did you use on the Laci Peterson search?
GR: We used a customized Marine Sonic Technology sidescan sonar. We have a custom-made
stainless steel tow body for the 600 kHz transducer. The towfish is six feet long and weighs about
130 pounds. The extra length makes it more stable and, consequently, the images are better. The
heavier weight allows us to work in deeper water with less cable.This setup requires the use of a
powered hoist to deploy the system. Our hoist has a variable speed electric motor with a remote
control and is also equipped with a slip clutch to prevent cable breakage if the towfish snags on
something underwater. We also used an aluminum tow body for the shallow water in San Francisco
Bay. The lighter weight of the aluminum gave us greater layback and tended to somewhat de-couple
the towfish from boat pitch and heave due to surface wave action.


UW: Do you use different units for different searches, why or why not?
GR: We use the aluminum tow body when we have to air freight the equipment and use a boat of
opportunity. We have lower and higher frequency transducers available for use in searching for larger
or smaller objects. The 600 kHz frequency is the best all-around frequency for most of the underwater
searches we have conducted.


UW: What have been the biggest advances in underwater bathymetric imaging equipment and
software you've seen?
GR: We are actually newcomers to the sidescan sonar business. It was the recent advance in image
quality due to the production of higher frequency transducers that really sold us on the sidescan system.


UW: Is it hard for you to separate the horror and humanity involved in body searches such as the
Peterson case, and concentrate on the job at hand?
GR: We approach every search with compassion, determination, and the will to succeed. Horrific
circumstances cannot be separated or ignored. Often those circumstances instill an even greater
desire for success and drive us to work even harder to locate what we have been asked to find.


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